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    盾の勇者の成り上がり

    An isekai show where the MC is no OP freakazoid as he can only use a shield for his weapon, and he has quite a difficult quest ahead thanks to a certain someone framing him of a crime that never happened.

    Airs: Wednesday, January 9, 2018

    Studio: Kinema Citrus

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    Stories of old tell of four otherworldly heroes?wielding the sword, spear, bow, and shield?who defended the land from wave after wave of calamity. With the fate of the world in balance, the kingdom of Melromarc summons these legendary figures; in modern-day Japan, the call is answered, and the unwitting heroes are transported to this fantasy universe.

    Thrust into Melromarc and given the title of "Shield Hero," otaku Naofumi Iwatani is labeled the weakest due to his lack of offensive capability and apparent inexperience. When the heroes part ways to start their journeys, he only has one willing companion: the beautiful princess Malty Melromarc. However, she soon betrays him, steals all his money, and accuses him of taking advantage of her.

    For his alleged crimes, Naofumi is branded a criminal and made outcast of society. With hatred filling his heart, he sets out alone, vowing vengeance against those who wronged him.


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  • #2
    Episode 1

    A shield won't protect him from this.

    That was quite a tremendous way to open things up as Naofumi is in quite a bad situation there. That Myne took advantage of him, and then some as not only did she rob him, but she framed him for raping her by using fake witness, planting fake evidence, and using Motoyasu to do the dirty work. Naofumi sure has quite a long road ahead of him as isekai shows have a pretty bad habit of making the MC overpowered as hell. Not here as his situation is more like the characters in Grimgar as not only is he saddled with no firepower being someone who is not even allowed to hold another weapon, but he's treated as an outcast thanks to a certain someone who wouldn't get away with that crime in the real world. A great start to this show.
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    • #3
      Re: Episode 1


      Well, that's a novel way to do isekai. I can see the "buying a slave who won't disobey me" thing pissing people off. I think this show will be divisive. Still, a great start.
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      • #4
        Re: Episode 1

        Off to a great start....well, for everyone but Naofumi.

        When I first saw the preview for this show, I ended up checking out the manga, which ended up in me inhaling all the available manga. The result was this became a show I really was looking forward to.

        Episode 1 did not disappoint. It did a great job of setting things up. You can feel Naofumi's confusion and excitement...and then the crushing impact of his betrayal.

        One thing they handled nicely was establishing that the 4 heroes were all from different versions of Japan.

        This show is going to be amazing to binge, but I don't have the patience to wait.
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        • #5
          Re: Episode 1

          This was one of the series I was looking forward to, especially being another Kinema Citrus adaptation with Kevin Penkin doing the music after Made in Abyss, and while it's obviously a very different kind of series, I did like the first episode quite a bit. I can't get my hopes up too high when it comes to isekai series like this, since I was extremely excited about Sword Art Online after the first episode and have been burned by it quite a few times since. There are some elements that could definitely prove controversial, but after setting up Naofumi's situation, I think they can deliver a solid story. It's certainly well-executed so far.
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          • #6
            Episode 2

            She's under his protection.

            So after the fallout after what that bitch pulled off, Naofumi's road to redemption begins with buying a slave to become a fighter seeing that his fighting ability is only useful for defense. As such, he makes Raphtalia his slave seeing that she comes cheap and while she's capable of being a trusted ally, she's quite scared, and is not exactly in ideal health. Nevertheless, those two are growing very nicely together that culminates with her slaying that two-headed dog that looks like that beast that killed her parents. This show just continues to nail it as it goes to show that under the right situation, this demihuman can become a strong ally.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Buckeye View Post
              Episode 2

              She's under his protection.

              So after the fallout after what that bitch pulled off, Naofumi's road to redemption begins with buying a slave to become a fighter seeing that his fighting ability is only useful for defense. As such, he makes Raphtalia his slave seeing that she comes cheap and while she's capable of being a trusted ally, she's quite scared, and is not exactly in ideal health. Nevertheless, those two are growing very nicely together that culminates with her slaying that two-headed dog that looks like that beast that killed her parents. This show just continues to nail it as it goes to show that under the right situation, this demihuman can become a strong ally.
              Re: Episode 2

              Raphtalia.

              We see Naofumi buy Raphtalia, a racoon-based demi-human, who is adorable and cute, once cleaned up, with a tragic aura about her, one that we learn exists due to the slaughter of her village and her parents sacrificing themselves to save her life, though things didn't quite work out as they'd hoped, as she ended up enslaved, with her past master being someone who enjoyed torture.

              Naofumi takes her in, with her fighting for him, with him earning XP when she fights, something that can be done with a party, which the bitch never bothered informing him about, another layer of bitterness and hate there.

              However controversial having a slave might be, Naofumi certainly takes care of Raphtalia, in a schizophrenic way: Cold on the one hand, treating her as a tool, but also with random acts of kindness, even as his soul remains locked shut. The acts of kindness almost seem to be reflex actions of his former self.

              This show's strong start continues and we get the introduction of someone who is clearly going to be a major character going forward.
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              • #8
                Re: Episode 2

                Naofumi could do without the asshole game, but as long as that fades quickly as he grows to care more about Raphtalia, we're good. When he's being a decent guy, it can be heartwarming at times, and the show sure knows how to build a climax.
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                • #9
                  Episode 3

                  Riding the Wave.

                  Naofumi and Raphtalia have spent quite a lot of time training as they are up to level 21, all while Raphtalia has grown. So with that, it's go time as the first Wave of Catastrophe has struck, and it's happening at a village. And just as advertised, the Wave is a tough battle, but Naofumi's training had made him a capable melee fighter, all while Raphtalia has become strong with the sword. Nicely done action there as the enemies just keep on coming, but Naofumi and the knights all did their roles to save the day. They passed their first test, but things only get tougher from hereon out.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Episode 3

                    Bigger is better.

                    In the time since the fight in the mine, Raphtalia's gotten bigger and her personality has matured.

                    Since no one's been telling Naofumi anything, he goes to check out the dragon clock that predicts the waves, and it's an impressive thing to see. Not as much for Naofumi who runs into the other heroes, with the Spear Hero hitting on Raphtalia to try and recruit her, and the Betraying Bitch now one of his party.

                    The wave arrives and while the other 3 heroes head for where the boss should be, Naofumi realizes that Lute village is about to be wiped out, just like Raphtalia's home was, and he heads of there to protect those people who are in serious trouble. He has a run in with several knights, with their leaders' disdain for him obvious, but some of the lower levels see how hard Naofumi is working to protect the village and villager and stay to support him. The result is that the wave ends with the other 3 killing the boss, and Naofumi and Raphtalia earning the deep respect and gratitude of the villagers, many of whom were dismissive of him, because of him being the Shield Hero, when he first arrived to help.

                    This episode shows yet again that we still have much to learn about this fantastic world, as the disdain for the Shield Hero and the mystery behind it deepens with each episode.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Episode 3

                      Originally posted by General Hentai View Post
                      This episode shows yet again that we still have much to learn about this fantastic world, as the disdain for the Shield Hero and the mystery behind it deepens with each episode.
                      I keep hoping Naofumi loosens up a bit. Yeah, he got shafted and he is justifiably bitter, but I don't think he and Raphtalia can continue to act as lone wolves forever. There are people who seem to be sympathetic to him, namely the weapons dealer and even the Archer Hero. I'd like to see him take advantage of that.

                      Also, I wonder if they can continue to just be in reaction mode all the time. Hopefully there is some way they can find the source of the problem and take the fight to the enemy without having to just wait around for the hourglass all the time.

                      Finally, I am still wondering why he was framed in the first place. I have yet to see any advantage gained by anyone. After all, falsely weakening one of the people who are there to save your world seems like a bad idea. Unless maybe the woman is an agent for whoever the ultimate enemy is...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Episode 3

                        Originally posted by Gildor View Post
                        Finally, I am still wondering why he was framed in the first place. I have yet to see any advantage gained by anyone. After all, falsely weakening one of the people who are there to save your world seems like a bad idea. Unless maybe the woman is an agent for whoever the ultimate enemy is...
                        Roughly speaking,

                        Spoiler ->The several-generations-ago Shield Hero took sides with demi-humans and the demi-humans worship the Shield Hero, but the demi-humans are antagonistic to humans. So, in the Melromarc kingdom, the Three Heroes (Spear, Sword, and Bow) sect was spun off from the Church of Four Heroes and Melromarc people including some royals look down on or dislike the Shield Hero, and Myne is, in reality, a wicked princess of Melromarc. So she framed the Shield Hero.


                        But your 'After all, falsely weakening one of the people who are there to save your world seems like a bad idea'theory is reasonable, and the logic which author thought up seems to be rather weak and farfetched.
                        But The Rising of the Shield Hero is a light novel series/web novel. In a sense, it might be better for us not to expect too much from 'cheapo pulp fiction with manga-ish illustrations aimed at lowbrow otacky kids'. ^_^;

                        Maybe that thing which author thought up is just a gimmick which story-wise gives the protagonist hardships and whose logic is weak.








                        Last edited by kijakusai; 01-25-2019, 11:28 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kijakusai View Post
                          Re: Episode 3


                          Roughly speaking,

                          Spoiler ->The several-generations-ago Shield Hero took sides with demi-humans and the demi-humans worship the Shield Hero, but the demi-humans are antagonistic to humans. So, in the Melromarc kingdom, the Three Heroes (Spear, Sword, and Bow) sect was spun off from the Church of Four Heroes and Melromarc people including some royals look down on or dislike the Shield Hero, and Myne is, in reality, a wicked princess of Melromarc. So she framed the Shield Hero.


                          But your 'After all, falsely weakening one of the people who are there to save your world seems like a bad idea'theory is reasonable, and the logic which author thought up seems to be rather weak and farfetched.
                          But The Rising of the Shield Hero is a light novel series/web novel. In a sense, it might be better for us not to expect too much from 'cheapo pulp fiction with manga-ish illustrations aimed at lowbrow otacky kids'. ^_^;

                          Maybe that thing which author thought up is just a gimmick which story-wise gives the protagonist hardships and whose logic is weak.







                          Well, there is an explanation provided by the author: People can come to believe their own propaganda, especially since when it's been around for generations. It's something not explicitly stated, but inferred from statements and actions.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by General Hentai View Post

                            Well, there is an explanation provided by the author: People can come to believe their own propaganda, especially since when it's been around for generations. It's something not explicitly stated, but inferred from statements and actions.
                            Unfortunately, I have to agree that humans will sometimes act against their own best interests for the stupidest of reasons, even going against overwhelming logic to the contrary. I guess that is why there is the saying "Cutting off your nose to spite your face".
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                            • #15
                              Re: Episode 3

                              Originally posted by General Hentai View Post
                              Well, there is an explanation provided by the author: People can come to believe their own propaganda, especially since when it's been around for generations. It's something not explicitly stated, but inferred from statements and actions.
                              Hmm...no offence, but I have not seen a sage-ish notion like that in the Japanese text of The Rising of the Shield Hero.
                              There are parts where characters talk about the reason why the Shield Hero is persecuted in The Rising of the Shield Hero novel in the original, but it is pieces of just-like-an-expositor's-speaking-to-the-readers text of weak explanation spoken by cardboard characters in light-novelese/poor Japanese.
                              However, if you are satisfied with what Aneko Yusagi wrote, it is fine with me. ^_^

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