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  • #16
    Re: Episode 4

    Originally posted by EmperorBrandon View Post
    Though is it going to work out as planned?
    All indications seem to be reading negative on that. Seriously, I'm tired of completely autonomous tanks with near impregnable armor. Hope people in the real world are never stupid enough to create such a thing…but they likely will when the tech gets there.

    Bittersweet is the most optimistic projection I have for this show's ending. They can, of course, surprise me.
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    • #17
      Re: Episode 4

      To serve humans, that's her wish.

      Even though the junker doesn't need Yumemi to escort him, she tags along anyway. She gives him a tour of the district as if the place was still operating, and she makes a wish to continue to serve humans for eternity. She has only four days left of battery, so it will be interesting to see what the junker decides to do with Yumemi. That guy got his hands on some booze seeing that this is his way of life, and then that ending where he fires at that droid and gets fired back at, that was quite the cliffhanger there. Hearing Yumemi talking has been great, but now this show is coming to a close as there's just one episode left. Hopefully, both of them can get their wish, but it's not looking too good.
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      • #18
        Re: Episode 4

        Originally posted by Hitsugi Amachi View Post
        Originally posted by EmperorBrandon View Post
        Though is it going to work out as planned?
        All indications seem to be reading negative on that. Seriously, I'm tired of completely autonomous tanks with near impregnable armor. Hope people in the real world are never stupid enough to create such a thing…but they likely will when the tech gets there.
        Not sure how anyone could survive that railgun blast, let alone the collateral damage. Still, I'm guessing the junker will come out injured at best, perhaps with a limp. Though I could see what they'll do if he comes out losing an eye or two.

        Bittersweet is the most optimistic projection I have for this show's ending. They can, of course, surprise me.
        Seems like it'll end this way. There isn't much to predict for, but what we've got, I personally find endearing. Similar stories seemed to attempt the same, but fell short. Time of Eve is another, similar one I liked, though it relied less on circumstance/setting and the theme was obvious from the start. Plastic Memories was decent enough, but I think it was trying too hard in some instances. This is more subtle and I hate to make the comparison given the premise and post-apocalyptic theme, but it almost has an iyashikei feel/pacing to it, to the extent what bctaris pointed out earlier- that it's patient in how it plays out. Ironically, it's also done in a short time, making the most of what 'little time is left'. I like it though. I also like some of the minor details (i.e. Yumemi overheating) they actually thought out, which rarely is an issue that arises in a lot of these types of stories. The cute blunders were cheesy, (though again, correctly referencing the fall-prone gait that robots technically have) but helped instill some sympathy for Yumemi, despite only being a robot that shouldn't feel pain.

        Kind of odd how a lot of this season is kind of 'meh' and a couple of the good ones have either 'ended' already (completely available) or will end soon.

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        • #19
          Re: Episode 4

          Originally posted by Sensuifu View Post
          There isn't much to predict for, but what we've got, I personally find endearing. Similar stories seemed to attempt the same, but fell short. Time of Eve is another, similar one I liked, though it relied less on circumstance/setting and the theme was obvious from the start. Plastic Memories was decent enough, but I think it was trying too hard in some instances. This is more subtle and I hate to make the comparison given the premise and post-apocalyptic theme, but it almost has an iyashikei feel/pacing to it, to the extent what bctaris pointed out earlier- that it's patient in how it plays out. Ironically, it's also done in a short time, making the most of what 'little time is left'. I like it though. I also like some of the minor details (i.e. Yumemi overheating) they actually thought out, which rarely is an issue that arises in a lot of these types of stories. The cute blunders were cheesy, (though again, correctly referencing the fall-prone gait that robots technically have) but helped instill some sympathy for Yumemi, despite only being a robot that shouldn't feel pain.
          If we want to do comparisons, what this story really is, in its weird, weird way, is like a blend of Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou with "A Farewell to Weapons," one of the segments of Short Peace. Planetarian was originally written in 2004, so it could well have some influence from the former, but the latter came out much, much later.



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          • #20
            Re: Episode 4

            So Mr. Customer is going to his ride but Yumemi is constantly needing breaks because her legs are overheating and need cooling. She wasn't made for kilometer long walks like this or maybe she's just a bit rusty. Lol she was telling that there are bumps in the road and was constantly falling over those very bumps. Lol the guy was looking at that bottle from every angle to make sure it isn't going to blow up and Yumemi picks it up just like that and hands it to him.

            The guy has taken a liking to Yumemi and doesn't want to see her in this empty city waiting for the customers who will never come. And Yumemi can't process this new information that the city is deserted which is why she still wants to stay at the planetarium and wait for customers. That ending though. The robot was stronger than he expected and it fired back at him. And by the looks of it, it managed to strike pretty close too. But the guy is probably alive, I hope though.
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            • #21
              Episode 5 (Finale)

              It was a pleasure serving you.

              And so, this story ends in tragedy as Yumemi has cease functioning, not because her battery was drained, but because she sacrificed herself to save the junker when he was about to become dead meat. It was her obligation to serve humans, and she goes out doing just that, and in a rather fearless way. Pretty sad, but nicely done seeing that Yumemi was going to be dead either way and that the junker sees himself as a starteller in the epilogue.

              Overall, for a show that lasts just five episodes this was nicely done to show just how much the world has changed, and how different the outlooks of the two characters are coming together like that. Yumemi can get pretty annoying, but overall the objective of this show is achieved in that the whole concept of the projector as a time machine to show just how great the world was before war broke out leading it to being a depressing place that it is today. The emotional impact is different from other Key visual adaptations seeing that Jun Maeda is not involved, but nevertheless it does a great job in working those feelings.

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              • #22
                Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                Had me very teary eyed as I'd expect. Yumemi really did get to thinking no one would come, but thought she was "broken" because of it. She may have not been given the function to cry, but the rain is there to help her. Junker, or now Starteller, is found alive at the end, so maybe there's a hopeful note with him going on and doing something with the memory card Yumemi left him.

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                • #23
                  Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                  It would appear that we were Asimov'd (specifically with Yumemi being programmed with something akin to the First Law). Too bad the moron humans in this universe created autonomous AI tanks. Knowing the Key style, of course things were going to end up like this, but it was a beautifully bittersweet ending.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                    Originally posted by Hitsugi Amachi View Post
                    A very strange, for anime, tale. And all the more interesting for it.
                    Strange for anime, today, perhaps. But--especially with the ending in mind--this would fit in fairly well in 70s through mid 90s sci-fi anime, back when Asimov, speaking of, still held much influence. This brings to mind something more like Key: The Metal Idol, and, again, some short film work than anything recent. (Though it got me thinking that Armitage III may have been the beginning of the end of more thoughtful stories like this.)
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                    • #25
                      Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                      Originally posted by bctaris View Post
                      Originally posted by Hitsugi Amachi View Post
                      A very strange, for anime, tale. And all the more interesting for it.
                      Strange for anime, today, perhaps. But--especially with the ending in mind--this would fit in fairly well in 70s through mid 90s sci-fi anime, back when Asimov, speaking of, still held much influence. This brings to mind something more like Key: The Metal Idol, and, again, some short film work than anything recent. (Though it got me thinking that Armitage III may have been the beginning of the end of more thoughtful stories like this.)
                      Funny that this 'uncoventional', or maybe 'untimely' adaptation, ranks higher than the more typical anime fare these past few seasons, if not generation. Not surprising though, as this is coming from a 12 year old VN that was at the peak/trailing-end of the 'robot/android' influence; so it probably strikes some nostalgia regarding these types of relationships that were far more common at the time. Aside from a few exceptions, yeah, there hasn't been much that fall into this particular genre, so it does seem like an outlier compared to more recent, popular tropes. But speaking of series where a robot's utility to serve and protect is concerned, the most recent one aside from Kaokaku no Pandora (which is a bit of a stretch) off the top of my head is Punch Line. Sure the premise was completely different, but I did love every bit where some of the limelight was on Meika, even with the emphasis of what her role really was from the beginning.

                      But yeah, Planetarian is a touching, bittersweet series that's very much appreciated in a time when everything else is staying the course of recent fads/trends. It's instances like this, that help characterize the show beyond the robot laws. I admit, I actually didn't wait to continue to play the VN. The anime moved a few things around, but never did so as to compromise it's narrative flow. Here's looking forward to the film. More Planetarian is good in my book.

                      And going back to Yumemi's character design; I don't know, but how can you not find her bow, awesome? :D It changes on status, which is pretty nifty, especially if someone were to implement something similar for cosplay.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                        Originally posted by Sensuifu View Post
                        Punch Line. Sure the premise was completely different, but I did love every bit where some of the limelight was on Meika, even with the emphasis of what her role really was from the beginning.
                        Meika felt kind of throwback in that sense, too, you're right.

                        It's instances like this, that help characterize the show beyond the robot laws.
                        Block that metaphor! Eh, heh. I don't play these things, but is that typical writing/translation?
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                        • #27
                          Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                          Originally posted by bctaris View Post
                          Originally posted by Sensuifu View Post

                          It's instances like this, that help characterize the show beyond the robot laws.
                          Block that metaphor! Eh, heh. I don't play these things, but is that typical writing/translation?
                          For the most part...depends. This actually is one of the more metaphorical prose I've recently come across, which does stick out against the likes of Muv-Luv, Grisaia, etc. Though given the content (non-comedy, non-ero, post-apocalyptic..) I guess it's easier to convey this type of story with this literary style. You can somewhat already get that sense with some scenes from the show, and it really is a fairly accurate adaptation of the source.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                            That was pretty damn good. This is probably the first time for me when a dying robot hit me with feels like this. This was pulled off pretty god damn brilliantly. I didn't expect Yumemi to die there (although she didn't really die but whatever). But at least now that dude has her 128 EB memory card. That is a whole lot of memories.

                            One thing constantly emphasized here is that the original purpose of robots is to help out humans and make things easier for them. But then humans started to use robots for purposes which don't exactly benefit humans in general. Yumemi is an example of the original purpose of creating robots. She even apologizes on behalf of the killer robot for harming that guy. Seeing a robot not wanting him dead was something new for Mr. Customer (god dammit what the hell is his nekoing name?!) which saw him taking a liking to Yumemi and what she does. Her final wish to not be separated from humans in heaven too showed that the only reason for robots to exist is to be beneficial to humans.

                            Yumemi knew all too well that there won't be customers coming to her planetarium anymore. But she was in denial as she didn't want to believe that her planetarium would remain deserted for the rest of eternity as that would mean that she can't fulfill her purpose of being beneficial to humans. She started to dismiss this thinking of hers as some error which she is unable to detect and hence can't fix. She denied the fact that the world is broken and instead believed that she's broken for thinking like that. Mr Customer's arrival meant that she can do what robots should do, be beneficial to humans. But she knew that she doesn't have much time left and that this man might be the last human she'll ever see. So she tried her best to be most beneficial to him. Her talking a lot about whatever and then escorting him in the end was all part of her trying to be of most assistance to him for as long as possible. She also probably had decided on going with Mr. Customer as a walking starteller or whatever plan that man had in mind for her.

                            And then the feels slammed into me when Yumemi said that she would probably be crying with unstoppable tears right about now. God dammit that was quite something. They even had the rain drops trickle from her eyes like tears. Yumemi showing projections of her previous customers thanking her was also pretty feelsy. Then how they ended her with her sight going then her voice changing a bit... Damn they pulled it off so well.

                            For a five episode show with shorter than average episode lengths, this was pretty damn good. They managed such a great ending too. The visuals were pretty cool too, especially in that starry episode. Yumemi was cute and I so did not mind her talking too much about whatever.

                            Now to wait for that movie. It's gonna smack me in the face with its feels like this neko just did, or at least I hope it does.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Episode 5 (Finale)

                              I kind of hoped to see a new Yumemi at the end, but nothing. Good ending though. Now to watch the dub version.
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